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Listen to the editors of "Debunking 9/11 Myths" discuss the book - and debunk several myths - on the the Popular Mechanics Show (podcast):
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This picture is of the Petagon Building. Most of the conspiracy theories I read (rolls eyes - in disgust) well anyways, most of the theories contend that no parts of the jet were found at the petagon building. There is clearly a piece of the wreckage in the forground of this picture above. Most of the conpiracy creators interviewed people leaving the pentagon who for security reasons I would expect were kept away from the accident as the building was on fire and eventualy collapsed. The conspiracy theorists use quotes from people and use them out of context.

The other thing conspiracy nuts (opps people) point out windows adjacent the 125' gapping hole. The wingspan is 175'n the 747. Investigators at the crash and FAA have stated one of the wings hit the ground just before hitting the petagon. This portion of the pentagon had recently been reinforced. The whole side had blast proof windows and the wall and columns are very strong. Therefore when the plane hit it would be like a bullet trying to get through a bullet proof vest. People actualy survived in rooms very close to the area of damage. I watched a special on the way the building had been reinforced on a PBS show. Wish I remembered which one. The showed the damage to the pentagon and also details on the newly reinforced protion and methods used. As a building inspector i was very interested in the newer construction. It was like an armoured tank.

Basiclly PBS is on in background most the time when I am at my computer. I am presently watching "Foyles War" or something like that. It's a PBS series of the british citizens daily life and trials on ones spirit during WW2 . This episode dealt with "Sedition". People whos speech or organization tends toward insurrection against the established government and is deeemed illegal by the government.

Sedition at wikipedia

is a term of law which refers to covert conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel.

Because sedition is typically considered a subversive act, the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where those legal codes have a traceable history, there is also a record of the change of definition for what constituted sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within study of persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Put simply, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state and has to do with giving aid to enemies or levying war. Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, when treason is actually betraying the country.

I think we should get out the law books and use war time court law summaries. Then go after these top people like michael moore and the writers of the conspiracy books. That would make me very happy to watch these greedy people who make money in seditious ways.

They create fear in the citizens and create mistrust. The democrates have been using and milking these tactics. They say impeach Bush. I say arrest those like madeline albriet who left out details to the 9/11 commission about knowledge she and the Clintons had during their administraion years. Then we should arrest the people behind the seditious books and movies.

Wake up liberals!, we are at war and if you don't understand it yet you may be too late and eventually charged with sedition. Till then enjoy your freedom before you lose them. Like the old phase. "Loose lips, sinks ship". Think before you speak and think well of the country that has given you the freedoms you enjoy. - Ian bach

Debunking The 9/11 Myths

Since I was a child I loved reading popular mechanics. The ability to see the next generation of science and mechanics was something I loved. Their experts, writiers, and methods to backup articles with solid facts has given it the longevity it has received. Thanks to people who still know the difference between science (internet style) and what is real science. Facts and figures are the mainstay of science. Some paranoid people in this country have writen books and movies that are no more then treasonous in my mind. We are at war and to twist things so greatly to create fear of government amoung the citizens is clearly not in our best interest. Those people only seek to make money by creating fear.

I am glad to bring the best of debunking of the 9/11 compsiracys. the following is from Popular Mechanics. I hope you share this with friends.

FALSE WITNESS: Conspiracy theorists claim this photo "proves" the 9/11 attacks were a U.S. military operation. PHOTOGRAPH BY ROB HOWARD
For background on this investigative feature, please click here.

Listen to the editors of Debunking 9/11 Myths discuss the book - and debunk several myths - on the the Popular Mechanics Show (podcast):

FROM THE MOMENT the first airplane crashed into the World Trade Center on the morning of September 11, 2001, the world has asked one simple and compelling question: How could it happen?

Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States.

To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.--THE EDITORS

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Smoke and Mirrors

Ever since I was a child I was fascinated by magic. This may have something to do with how I view the World and the News. Recently I have been looking into all these conspiracy theories and the people spreading them. Many have some book with no real data. Others are just ignorant believers. I saw some videos on You Tube with Penn and Teller, they have or had a show where they called BS on some conspiracy theories and exposed some of the Liars.

During WW1 and WW2 magicians were used for their abilities to deceive the enemy. I would love to see this happen now! More then ever we need our brightest people to expose the Lies and to deceive the enemy.

The conspiracy theorists and some of the so called scientists today create panic through deceit, lies, and their paranoid views of the world. The amount of people who actually believe some of the theories (including ones like “we didn’t really go to the moon”) or the ones spread by the movie Fahrenheit 911 is getting worse.

Holy Cow!!! How dumb are people? - Ian Bach

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